1 - Opening Remarks - Chair

Introduction by Jason Ryan and co-chair Joel Yu from Enchanted Rock.
Reminder that the session is being recorded and will be available on YouTube.
For new participants, questions can be asked via the raise hand feature and chat function.
Slides will be posted in project 53911 along with the YouTube recording link.
Acknowledgment of work and time dedicated by task force members and partners at PUC, OPUC, and ERCOT.
Agenda overview by Joel Yu including discussions on interoperability and feedback from last meeting's slides.
Discussion on technical expertise follow-up and roadmap to 80 MW for the ADER program expansion.
Plan to recap open action items from the previous meeting.

2 - Cmsr Glotfelty Memo item #1 Discussion - Scott Hinson, Pencan Street Institute

Scott Hinson, CTO of Pecan Street, Inc., shared insights on interoperability and accessibility in energy systems.
Emphasized the importance of adopting industry standards as a whole, particularly citing IEEE 1547 for renewable energy devices.
Discussed the issues surrounding standards that may conflict internationally and the need to choose comprehensive standards.
Highlighted risks of not adopting full standards, leading to outdated and non-standard equipment on the grid.
Explained that interoperability does not automatically mean accessibility; manufacturers must ensure device access.
Suggested that cybersecurity concerns should not hinder accessibility and recommended strong encryption practices.
Discussed the potential challenges of requiring accessibility in device regulations.
Outlined issues with older equipment using unencrypted Modbus, suggesting secure gateways as a solution.
Addressed concerns about compatibility of interoperability standards with NERC CIP requirements.
Expressed a need for continuous learning and adaptation as regulations and standards evolve.
Concluded with recommendations to automatically adopt revised standards with a grace period and ensure rules require accessibility.

Plans to discuss task force recommendations at the next meeting and draft changes to the governing document.
Review of the blocky load concept as part of phase three of the pilot, with limited system changes required.
Discussion on the aggregated NCLR concept and its benefits, including enabling residential participation.
Clarification on choosing a VPP provider independent of a retail electric provider under the NCLR concept.
Connections between residential demand participation and ERCOT's broader efforts to incentivize residential engagement.
Separateness of ongoing discussions and potential broader integration of residential aggregation in the future.
Discussion on potential changes to protocol requirements related to ALR, LSE, and QSE representations.
Clarification on whether the NCLR model addresses issues in the commissioner's memo and its primary objectives.
Exploration of blocky loads as net injection and potential adjustments to requirements for aggregated resources.
Continuing development of governing document markups with consensus support and openness to further discussions.

Effort to map potential for ADERs with a focus on the 80 MW goal.
Carmen Best discussed existing research and the need to communicate progress in achieving the 80 MW target.
Joel Yu referenced discussions about utilizing existing research and notes related to ADER potential.
Exploration of primary vs. secondary research and the prioritization of tasks.
Suggestions included surveying companies or using existing comments to ascertain resource potential.
Acknowledgment of using annual reports and modeling tools for primary research.
Importance of aligning task force efforts with commission interests and overall market objectives.
Discussion on classification and relevance of different studies concerning ADERs.
Rajiv Shah emphasized potential usefulness of the exercise for internal and external purposes.
Carmen highlighted the educational aspect rather than a marketing focus.
Talks around participation models and integrations with existing pilot programs were highlighted by discussion members.
Discussion of timely deliverables with suggestions that align with the end of year or the first quarter report of 2025.
Recommendations to collate existing resources and avoid duplicative work were emphasized.

Revisiting ongoing inventory of items from the last discussion on roadmap to 80 MW.
Clarification received to remove injection requirement for ADER.
Need to improve understanding of potential MW available, especially for systems behind the meter.
Discussion on better reporting and interconnection reports for smaller systems.
Consideration of potential federal funding impact on solar and storage systems.
Addressing technical requirements in RFP processes for ADER participation.
Evaluating information on residential solar installations reported by TDUs to commission.
Discussion on possible need for more granular data reporting by utilities.
Acknowledgment of a lack of data on available systems and the need to address this.
Action items to plan addressing pending issues effectively by the end of the year.

A November workshop is planned, with a Doodle poll sent out to task force members to schedule the date.
The workshop will focus on items two and four from Commissioner Glotfelty's memo, which haven't been fully discussed yet.
Presentations are expected on these topics and the goal is to develop consensus on all four questions in the memo by the end of the year.
ERCOT aims to make progress on revising the governing document.
More than one meeting in December may be required to address all issues.
Accommodating as many schedules as possible is a priority.
Participants agreed on the proposed approach.
Slides from the meeting and a link to the recording will be posted in the project.
The next meeting is planned for the first half of November, before the holidays.